Murder, Murder on the Wall

The Angels Landing Cult, and some Classic Cult Beauty Products

This week, Kelly and Stacey introduce you to the worst cult you've never heard of: Lou Castro and his Angels Landing cult. It’s a real potpourri of crimes, including murder, fraud, grooming and unimaginable treatment of children. The good news? Two of these children are now women, and they are the ones who put a stop to this horrific cult and put this man - with many aliases and a lot of criming under his belt - behind bars once and for all. Beauty at 36:00: We also have some cult beauty products. Culty for the best reason. No joining a cult for these, unless its leader works for Sephora.
 
Our Sources:TIMESUCK by Dan Cummins 
Wichita Eagle Numerous articles.
Oxygen’s “Deadly Cults”
Dateline: Angels and Demons
Heavy.com: Angels Landing Commune: Five Facts You Need to Know
The Deep: The Craziest Cults in History 
Casetext: State vs. Perez
 
Our Cult Beauty Product Round-Up at 36:00
Clinique Almost Lipstick in Black Honey
Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser
Vanicream 
Good Molecules squalane
Laneige Lip Mask
Corsyx Snail Mucin
Elizabeth Arden 8 Hour Cream
Giorgio Armani Luminous Silk Foundation 
Benefit Benetint
Rare Beauty by Selena Gomez Melting Cream Blush in Nearly Rose
Charlotte Tilbury Hollywood Flawless Filter
Hourglass Airbrush Vanishing Concealer
Gucci Westman Lip Suede Palette

The Murder of Gianni Versace + Fall Fashion Finds

We’re back, beauties - and this week we’re veering over into the land of fashion to cover the very tragic 1997 murder of legendary fashion designer Gianni Versace. Sadly, this story is full of twists and turns that cover spree killer Andrew Cunanan’s three-months long journey from Minnesota to Miami that left five men dead…and everyone asking why. It’s also almost officially fall - and that means fashion. We’re not experts…but we do know how to make wishlists, and we’re sharing ours with you. 
Our Sources:
Harper’s Bazaar: A Complete Timeline of Andrew Cunanan's Murders by Emma Dibdin
Harper’s Bazaar The True Story Behind Andrew Cunanan and David Madson's Relationship by Julie Kosin
Dateline The Death of Gianni Versace by Keith Morrison
L’Officiel: Gianni Versace - His Story by Margherita Meda
Wunderlabel.com: Gianni Versace Biography (no byline listed)
L’Officiel: The Meaning Behind Gianni Versace’s Fashion Signatures by Courtney DeLong
Vanity Fair: The Truth About Gianni Versace and Andrew Cunanan’s Relationship by Julie Miller
Harper’s Bazaar: Donatella Versace On Celebrity, Creativity and Refusing to Conform by Alexander Fury
Wikipedia Gianni Versace 
Wikipedia Andrew Cunanan
Also Mentioned: OrotonAmerican Crime Story
FASHION! At 52:18
La Ligne Matteo Cardigan
Apiece Apart Featherweight Cashmere Sweater
Sold Out Everything Shirt in Cherry 
Ganni Leopard Coat
Mango Leopard Coat 
Jaquemus Le Bambola Tote 
Kallmeyer Billie Top
The Frankie Shop
J Crew Men’s Classic Chino Pant
Gap Men’s Modern Fit Khakis Baggy
HM Jacket
Adina Reyter Bag Charm
Parker Thatch Bag Charm
Etsy Leather Bag Charm
Aigle Rain Boots
ZARA Jeans
Leopard Blazer
Clare V. Grande Fanny but in red!
Jenni Kayne Cove Dress
Madewell Cropped Denim Jacket
Dior Homme Trench Coats (Vintage) 
Credits:
Joe Boover-Music
Bespoken Podcasting-Adam LinderFollow us on Instagram! @murdermurderonthewallJoin us on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/MMOTWPodcastEmail us! murdermurderonthewall@gmail.com If you love this podcast, make sure to rate and review us wherever you listen!

Murder, Murder on the Wall: Our First Trial-Sized Episode! Life and Death in the Hamptons: When the Instagram Feed isn't exactly the Full Picture

This week, Kelly and Stacey are unveiling our first “trial-sized” episode. Spoiler alert: it’s still longer than we expected. We’re also recapping a weekend in the Hamptons, and everything that entails - including chatter about the very sad, very current story of the Miller family, and how keeping up with the Jones - or really anyone out east - can very quickly spiral out of control. Another spoiler alert: Everything you see on Instagram isn’t exactly what it seems. Finally - of course we have a few beauty recos - things we love and things we tried on our Hamptons weekend getaway. 
*This episode deals with death by suicide. If you or anyone you know is in crisis or experiencing suicidal thoughts, there is help. Call or text 988 for help nationwide - or reach out to your local crisis center.*
This is our very first trial-sized episode, so you can grab it on your way to checkout at Sephora. Do you need it? No. But you pick it up anyway to try it out and then you go full on full sized immediately cause it is awesome. 
Our Sources
NYTimes By Katherine Rosman
NYPOST Mama + Tata influencer lists Hampton Mansion By Tamantha Ryan
NYPost Tragic Hamptons Mogul Trying to Keep up with The Bezoeses By Dana Kennedy
BEAUTY! 30:30
Warm Fragrance Oil
Airem Pearlessence Face Mask
Caudalie Premier Eye Cream
Caudalie Premier Rich Cream
LitBear Travel Makeup Mirror
Also mentioned:
Matriark
Warm Store
Jenni Kayne
Lulu Kitchen and Bar
Nightstand wine Summer in a Bottle
Holiday House Hamptons

Episode 6: The Tragic Murder of 80s TV Star Rebecca Schaeffer, and an Ode to Some of TV’s Best Hair

This week, Kelly and Stacey are nostalgic and emotional over TV shows of years gone by. We mourn Shannen Doherty, and two of our favorite shows that would never have been the same without her: 90210 and Little House on the Prairie. Then, we unpack the untimely and very heartbreaking murder of a rising 80s TV starlet: Rebecca Schaeffer. Her death was the catalyst for some of the anti-stalking laws we now have in place - but we also offer some additional resources, because - spoiler - you don’t have to be famous to be a victim of stalking. Finally, we lighten things up with some tips for how to get your most epic hair ever. We have lots of great products on the list - including a new-ish line by an A-list TV actress known for many things…especially a certain haircut. 
Our Sources:
Eonline The Still Terrifying Details of the Murder of Rebecca Schaeffer By Natalie Finn
 
The Day a Young Actress Was Killed in Cold Blood  By Emily Whipp, Gwen Gowen and Enjoli Francis
Murder Suspect’s ‘Obsession’ Foretold in Studio Visit by Tracy Wilkinson for the Los Angeles Times Murderpedia profile of Robert John BardoSuspect on Tape Tells of Actress’s Last Words by Andrea Ford for the Los Angeles Times How Robert John Bardo’s Obsession With Rebecca Schaeffer Led To Murder by Leah Silverman for All That’s Interesting 
 
Penitentiary Pals on Facebook: Celebrity Stalker Robert Bardo Explains His Horrific Crimes  reported by Mike Scott
Resources for Victims of Stalking: 
SPARC: Stalking Prevention Awareness and Resource Center
The Legal Aid Society of New York 
Legal Definition of Stalking 
American Bar Association Free/Affordable Legal Help 
Five Apps to Help Document Stalking/Abuse
 
BEAUTY! At 52:13
 
Virtue Healing Oil
Living Proof Dry Volume and Texture Spray
RŌZ Root Lift Spray
Crown Affair The Dry Shampoo
Olaplex No.5 Bond Maintenaince Conditioner
Lolavie Glossing Detangler
Satin Heatless Curling Set
 
Credits:
Joe Boover-Music
Bespoken Podcasting-Adam Linder
 
Special Thanks to Tom Spezialy and my dear friend, Brenda Julian Spezialy
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Way More than We Can Chew: The Karen Read Phenomenon and Make-Up that Doesn’t Melt Under Pressure (or the sun)

What are we thinking? This week, Kelly and Stacey join the legions of other podcasts that have taken on the Karen Read Murder Trial - but with our own twist. We attempt to unpack how this little case from outside of BAH-ston became a nail-biting, courthouse flash-mobbing national obsession. We also examine Karen Read’s courtroom style, and wonder who paid for all that designer drip. Finally, in the dog days of summer, we have some recos for hot-weather make-up that stays on your face when you need to keep your cool. Like if you are on trial for murder - or just dealing with your kids. 
Please note: This episode’s focus is about the ongoing and extensive coverage around the Karen Read murder trial that has riveted the entire nation for months - and our opinions on how this public fascination spread like wildfire - throughout the mainstream media, social media and even activist media. It is not about the legal intricacies of the case - nor is it really about the tragic event.  The death of Officer John O’Keefe is heartbreaking - no matter how it may have unfolded. He - and his children - deserve justice. Period.
Our Sources:
Boston News: The Karen Read Murder Trial: Canton Confidential Podcast
MassLive Timeline By Tréa Lavery  
CBS Boston Why are People so Obsessed By Kristina Rex
CBS News Boston How is Turtleboy Involved WBZ News Staff
CBS News: Who is Karen Read and Why are Some People Calling to ‘Free’ Her? By Matt Schooley
The Cut: What We Know About the Karen Read Murder Trial by Claire Lampen
Vox.com: The Baffling Case of Karen Read by Aja Romano
Also mentioned: 
An incredible interactive guide to the key players in the case by Matt Fortin, Debbie King and Alex Ford for NBCBostom.com 
Emily D. Baker on YouTube
Dressing for the Dock: The Psychology of Courtroom Style/theguardian.com staff report
Polished, Assertive and On the Attack: What to Know about Karen Read’s Trial Style by Abby Patkin for Boston.com 
Shannon Shaming on X.com She does a fab job of breaking down all of Karen Read’s looks 
Lipstick Lesbians
Housewives of True Crime (two great episodes with opposing viewpoints on Karen Read!)
 
Fashion and BEAUTY! at 57:12
Town & Country: Everything Gwyneth Wore to her Ski Trial by Sophie Dweck
Anna Delvey Court Looks Instagram 
The New York Times: The Verdict on Elizabeth Holmes Trial Makeover by Vanessa Friedman
That Veronica Beard Miller Jacket! 
More Veronica Beard  
iT CC Cream 
Supergoop! 100% Mineral (Re)setting Powder Face Sunscreen SPF 35
Koh Gen Do Maifanshi Moisture Foundation 
Beauty of Joseon Relief Sun: Rice & Probiotics SPF 50 
Saie Sun Melt The Viral Cream Balm Bronzer 
Supergoop! (Re) Setting Refreshing Mist Sunscreen SPF 40
Kopari Beauty Rose Gold Sun Shield Body Glow Sunscreen SPF 45
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Gone Girls: Celebrating Wedding Season with a Runaway Bride, a Runaway Mom (but hopefully not Runaway Mascara)

It’s summer - and that means weddings. But not for Jennifer Wilbanks, who will forever be cemented in our hearts as the real-life runaway bride. Kelly and Stacey cover this 2005 doozy of a kidnapping hoax, before moving on to November 2016, when California mommy Sherri Papini pulled an infamous disappearing act of her own. We wonder about mascara, and what is the best kind for crying at weddings - or running away from our lives. 
Our Sources:
Wikipedia  Runaway Bride Case
NBCNews.com: Jennifer Wilbanks: I was Running Away from Myself msnbc.com staff report 
Today.com: Where is Sherri Papini Now? By Randee Dawn
Wikipedia: The Sherri Papini Kidnapping Hoax
Also mentioned: 
Runaway Bride movie starring Julia Roberts and Richard Gere
Kelly goes on a date with Stabler McDonalds and a Movie
Beauty at 26:54
Fan Brush 
Great Lash
Hourglass Instant Extensions
Westman Atelier Eye Love You (gold tube)
Westman Atelier Eye Want You (red tube)
Grande Lash
Maybelline Sky High
E.L.F
Gee Thanks, Just Bought It
Gee Thanks, Just Swapped It
Lashify
YSL Lash Clash
Lancome Lash Primer
Latisse 
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So Many Wheels: The Tragic Murder of Pro Cyclist Anna Moriah “Mo” Wilson + Cleaning Up Our Beauty Acts

It’s a winding (gravel) road that Kelly and Stacey are going down this week covering the heartbreaking murder of elite pro cyclist Anna Moriah “Mo” Wilson - and the unbelievable escape of yogi Kaitlin Armstrong. Yes, Stacey knows that she says “Tour of France” instead of “Tour de France”. She just needs a trip to Europe to straighten things out, okay?
Our sources:
BikeRadar.com: Gravel Riding Explained by Katherine Moore
VTSports.com: Moriah Wilson: The Real Story by Lisa Lynn
VTSports.com: Moriah Wilson: Vermont’s Super Star Gravel Racer by Ian King 
CBSAustin.com Daily Trial Recaps by Jessica Taylor
Dailymail.co.uk  Killer Kaitlin Armstrong Snared by US Marshalls by Germana Rodriguez Poleo
KXAN.com Ahead of Armstrongs Trial, A Look Back by Kelsey Thompson, Sam Stark, Avery Travis Dalton Huey, Julianna Russ, Brianna Hollis, Jaclyn Ramkisson
CBSNews.com Fugitive Kaitlin Armstrong Caught by answering US. Marshalls ad for Yoga Instructor byJonathan Vigilotti
Also mentioned: 
Kinship Milk Tea
Mo Wilson Substack 
Mo Wilson Instagram 
At 41:31 it’s all things clean beauty - and an app that will change your life. Mentioned in this episode: 
Skin Trip Coconut Moisturizer
The YUKA App
Merit Beauty 
Rahua Classic Shampoo
Roz Milk Hair Serum
Biologique Recherche ISO-Placenta Regenerating Face Cream
Mrs. Meyer Clean Day Liquid Geranium Hand Soap
Ilia Beauty 
Kosas 
Dawn Original: Safe for Ducks!
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A Beauty Caper for the Ages: Michelle Mack and the California Girls

They say you never really know what goes on behind closed doors. Michelle Mack's neighbors would agree. Kelly and Stacey unpack the ultimate beauty crime - a beauty product theft ring that spanned over nine years in 20 states, allegedly helmed by an unassuming suburban mom in California - and netted her millions of dollars in stolen products from Ulta, Sephora, Bloomingdales...and Lenscrafters? 
Sources: 
The Daily Mail by Marjorie Hernandez: Cali 'queenpin Michelle Mack created notorious underworld make-up crime ring
The Daily Mail by Marjorie Hernandez: California Queenpin Michelle Mack is Seen House-hunting 
International Business Times by R. Ghosh: Who is Michelle Mack? 
CNBC by Gabrielle Fonrouge, Scott Zamost and Courtney Regan: Inside the Crime Rings Plaguing Retailers including Ulta, TJ Maxx and Walgreens 
Realtor.com by Lisa Johnson Mandell: Michelle Mack of California Girls Crime Ring Desperately Tries to Unload San Diego Mansion
NY Post by Isabel Keane: Suburban Mom Ran Complex Crime Ring 
95 and Sunny Crystal Nail Files 
San Tan Mountain Events
At 38:38 we get into the beauty segment of the episode. Come along with us to ULTA where we each have $50 to spend. One of us understands the assignment. One of us definitely does not. Products mentioned:
Mario Badescu spray
La Roche Posay Anthelios
Whoa Glow ELF
O face Lipstick Elf
Tanologist
Gettin’ Buttah Blush NYX
Brow Glue Med Brow NYX
 
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Summer Deep Dive: The Murder of Sylvie Cachay + Swim Season Musts

Just in time for high summer, Stacey and Kelly discuss the sad, untimely death of the talented and beautiful swimsuit designer Sylvie Cachay. Some SYLA by Sylvie Cachay pieces can be found here. 
Our sources:
NY Times: Death at Soho House by Eric WilsonNYMag: The Curious Case of Joseph and Nicholas Brooks by James VeriniNBC 4 New York Boyfriend Convicted of Murder in Fashion Designer's SoHo Death by the Associated PressNY Post: many articles including this oneEater NY: Soho House 
At 50:35 we take a deep dive into our favorite swimwear brands, and beach body beauty finds. Mentioned in this episode: 
Left on Friday Malia MillsHunza G Eres ParisJCrew 
Beauty Products & Procedures: The Younger GamesAirSculptNuxe ParisFrenchPharmacy.comBiafineSomatoline Slimming Draining Leg Treatment Somatoline Cryo Anti Cellulite GelYSE Beauty Liquid Glow Body OilSally Hansen Airbrush LegsVita Liberata Body Blur